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		By: Arthur Morris/BIRDS AS ART		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Arthur Morris/BIRDS AS ART]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;font id=comreply&gt;A bit more.  I am pretty sure that nobody in the world would agree with all the judge&#039;s pick in any contest.  Once the current portfolio is available through Amazon, I will be commenting on lots of the images.   That will probably happen in late spring/early summer.   &lt;font&gt;artie]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><font id=comreply>A bit more.  I am pretty sure that nobody in the world would agree with all the judge&#8217;s pick in any contest.  Once the current portfolio is available through Amazon, I will be commenting on lots of the images.   That will probably happen in late spring/early summer.   </font><font>artie</font></p>
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		By: Derek Courtney		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Derek Courtney]]></dc:creator>
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					<description><![CDATA[I always enjoy and learn a lot from the posts and subsequent comments, and of course Artie&#039;s responses to those. This particular BBC honored image (Salt and Pepper) of Artie&#039;s doesn&#039;t strike a chord with me. I certainly appreciate the technical info and story he gave with original posting. That&#039;s the best part of this blog, the teaching he offers and insight into his though process. And I could certainly see the appeal of the image printed, especially very large. But it wouldn&#039;t be one that I would purchase (or make) for my own collection. Artie&#039;s comments to prospective contest entrants is sound advice. But maybe, for example those who offer the more negative responses, the aesthetic tendencies of some don&#039;t align with contest judges. The comment above about impressionists in art was interesting. Did the likes of Monet, Degas, and particularly Manet develop this school because they fought against the establishment or wanted to please critics. Difficult to say for certain of course, but in Manet&#039;s case at least he &quot;... paint(s) what I see, and not what others like to see&quot;. I wonder how much of the BBC&#039;s (and many other contests&#039;) awards are made with an eye toward moving away from &quot;non-traditional&quot; wildlife photography simply because so many brilliant images of &quot;traditional&quot; wildlife photography have already been made, honored, seen, etc. Maybe this is even a good thing as it offers direct a direct financial benefit to those who push traditional boundaries. All good things to think about I suppose. Regardless, although I certainly didn&#039;t agree with the BBC results and, myself at least, don&#039;t necessarily agree with the concept of making images to meet projected expectations of some panel of judges ... it&#039;s always wonderful to see wildlife photography through another&#039;s eyes. Especially here where Artie offers so much of his insight into his own photographs. Nothing ever wrong with learning.

&lt;font id=comreply&gt;Hi Derek and welcome here.  Thanks for your thoughtful comments.  And for your kind words.  I agree with much of what you say, but....  I did not make this image &quot;to meet projected expectations of some panel of judges.&quot;   I made it as I was having fun in a snow storm with thousands of geese.  I remember switching from blurs to sharp just because.   I did enter it because I thought that it might do well with the WPOTY judges but that is not why I created it!  There is a big difference there. Six of the 20 images that I entered made it to the final round of judging....  This is far from being one of my favorite-ever images but I am proud of it. :) &lt;font&gt;artie]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always enjoy and learn a lot from the posts and subsequent comments, and of course Artie&#8217;s responses to those. This particular BBC honored image (Salt and Pepper) of Artie&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t strike a chord with me. I certainly appreciate the technical info and story he gave with original posting. That&#8217;s the best part of this blog, the teaching he offers and insight into his though process. And I could certainly see the appeal of the image printed, especially very large. But it wouldn&#8217;t be one that I would purchase (or make) for my own collection. Artie&#8217;s comments to prospective contest entrants is sound advice. But maybe, for example those who offer the more negative responses, the aesthetic tendencies of some don&#8217;t align with contest judges. The comment above about impressionists in art was interesting. Did the likes of Monet, Degas, and particularly Manet develop this school because they fought against the establishment or wanted to please critics. Difficult to say for certain of course, but in Manet&#8217;s case at least he &#8220;&#8230; paint(s) what I see, and not what others like to see&#8221;. I wonder how much of the BBC&#8217;s (and many other contests&#8217;) awards are made with an eye toward moving away from &#8220;non-traditional&#8221; wildlife photography simply because so many brilliant images of &#8220;traditional&#8221; wildlife photography have already been made, honored, seen, etc. Maybe this is even a good thing as it offers direct a direct financial benefit to those who push traditional boundaries. All good things to think about I suppose. Regardless, although I certainly didn&#8217;t agree with the BBC results and, myself at least, don&#8217;t necessarily agree with the concept of making images to meet projected expectations of some panel of judges &#8230; it&#8217;s always wonderful to see wildlife photography through another&#8217;s eyes. Especially here where Artie offers so much of his insight into his own photographs. Nothing ever wrong with learning.</p>
<p><font id=comreply>Hi Derek and welcome here.  Thanks for your thoughtful comments.  And for your kind words.  I agree with much of what you say, but&#8230;.  I did not make this image &#8220;to meet projected expectations of some panel of judges.&#8221;   I made it as I was having fun in a snow storm with thousands of geese.  I remember switching from blurs to sharp just because.   I did enter it because I thought that it might do well with the WPOTY judges but that is not why I created it!  There is a big difference there. Six of the 20 images that I entered made it to the final round of judging&#8230;.  This is far from being one of my favorite-ever images but I am proud of it. 🙂 </font><font>artie</font></p>
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