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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.birdsasart-blog.com/baa/2017/06/29/the-mega-underexposed-roseate-spoonbill-and-announcing-the-fall-2017-fort-desoto-ipt/comment-page-1/#comment-1748742&quot;&gt;Matthew Binns&lt;/a&gt;.

Thanks and fixed. 

with love, artie]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.birdsasart-blog.com/baa/2017/06/29/the-mega-underexposed-roseate-spoonbill-and-announcing-the-fall-2017-fort-desoto-ipt/comment-page-1/#comment-1748742">Matthew Binns</a>.</p>
<p>Thanks and fixed. </p>
<p>with love, artie</p>
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		By: Arthur Morris/BIRDS AS ART		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://www.birdsasart-blog.com/baa/2017/06/29/the-mega-underexposed-roseate-spoonbill-and-announcing-the-fall-2017-fort-desoto-ipt/comment-page-1/#comment-1748757&quot;&gt;Greg Downing&lt;/a&gt;.

Dear Gregory, 

Well, look what the cat dragged in :) Greg was one of several students who took several IPTs with me way back when and wound up making a full time living in photography. Many other students  have been able to generate a decent amount of income through photography while keeping their day jobs. And still others have had images honored in the BBC Wildlife Photographer of the Year competitions, in the Nature&#039;s Best contest, and in other prestigious photographic competitions. 

re:

&lt;em&gt;Still your same style of simplicity and good compositional rules.&lt;/em&gt;

Thanks Greg. It is hard to teach an old dog new tricks. My clean, tight, and graphic style has been working well for three decades so why change now?

&lt;em&gt;I know the answers to your questions but don’t want to ruin the fun.&lt;/em&gt; 

Much appreciated. Some of the boys and girls did quite well. 

&lt;em&gt;I did want to make a comment: IME (in my experience --I had to look that one up) opening up an image in post processing gives you, more or less, the equivalent amount of noise and reduction in image quality than if you had simply shot at a higher ISO to begin with, at the proper exposure.&lt;/em&gt;

I agree. You taught me that about 16 years ago when you kindly helped me get started with digital. 

&lt;em&gt;I only make this comment because you mentioned you did not want to lower your speed or raise your ISO – so you underexposed instead (if I read that right). &lt;/em&gt;

You did. 

&lt;em&gt;IME when shooting at high ISO’s it is still (even more) important NOT to under-expose. While today’s cameras are much more forgiving for under and over exposing IME adjusting your exposure via raising your ISO, or adjusting exposure in post processing should yield similar results in the end. 

So my advice is always try and avoid underexposure especially when you are pushing higher ISO values. Less work later.&lt;/em&gt;

Perhaps, and as you ay the results are similar :) IME I have found that with the amazing Dynamic Range of the 5D Mark IV you have lots of latitude even for underexposure. With today&#039;s featured image I was not worried about noise in either the pink feathers or the light-toned BGKR. My only area of concern were the dark legs. They exhibited some noise that was easily taken care of with NeatImage. So I was quite pleased both with the optimized TIFF and the 1200 wide JPEG that is presented above. So not much work there. 

&lt;em&gt;Thanks again for sharing (as always) and for the prolific spewing of knowledge.&lt;/em&gt;

You are most welcome.  I find it had to break those 30 year habits :)

with love back at you, 

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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://www.birdsasart-blog.com/baa/2017/06/29/the-mega-underexposed-roseate-spoonbill-and-announcing-the-fall-2017-fort-desoto-ipt/comment-page-1/#comment-1748757">Greg Downing</a>.</p>
<p>Dear Gregory, </p>
<p>Well, look what the cat dragged in 🙂 Greg was one of several students who took several IPTs with me way back when and wound up making a full time living in photography. Many other students  have been able to generate a decent amount of income through photography while keeping their day jobs. And still others have had images honored in the BBC Wildlife Photographer of the Year competitions, in the Nature&#8217;s Best contest, and in other prestigious photographic competitions. </p>
<p>re:</p>
<p><em>Still your same style of simplicity and good compositional rules.</em></p>
<p>Thanks Greg. It is hard to teach an old dog new tricks. My clean, tight, and graphic style has been working well for three decades so why change now?</p>
<p><em>I know the answers to your questions but don’t want to ruin the fun.</em> </p>
<p>Much appreciated. Some of the boys and girls did quite well. </p>
<p><em>I did want to make a comment: IME (in my experience &#8211;I had to look that one up) opening up an image in post processing gives you, more or less, the equivalent amount of noise and reduction in image quality than if you had simply shot at a higher ISO to begin with, at the proper exposure.</em></p>
<p>I agree. You taught me that about 16 years ago when you kindly helped me get started with digital. </p>
<p><em>I only make this comment because you mentioned you did not want to lower your speed or raise your ISO – so you underexposed instead (if I read that right). </em></p>
<p>You did. </p>
<p><em>IME when shooting at high ISO’s it is still (even more) important NOT to under-expose. While today’s cameras are much more forgiving for under and over exposing IME adjusting your exposure via raising your ISO, or adjusting exposure in post processing should yield similar results in the end. </p>
<p>So my advice is always try and avoid underexposure especially when you are pushing higher ISO values. Less work later.</em></p>
<p>Perhaps, and as you ay the results are similar 🙂 IME I have found that with the amazing Dynamic Range of the 5D Mark IV you have lots of latitude even for underexposure. With today&#8217;s featured image I was not worried about noise in either the pink feathers or the light-toned BGKR. My only area of concern were the dark legs. They exhibited some noise that was easily taken care of with NeatImage. So I was quite pleased both with the optimized TIFF and the 1200 wide JPEG that is presented above. So not much work there. </p>
<p><em>Thanks again for sharing (as always) and for the prolific spewing of knowledge.</em></p>
<p>You are most welcome.  I find it had to break those 30 year habits 🙂</p>
<p>with love back at you, </p>
<p>artie</p>
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