{"id":23368,"date":"2014-10-15T07:12:27","date_gmt":"2014-10-15T11:12:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/?p=23368"},"modified":"2014-10-16T07:43:52","modified_gmt":"2014-10-16T11:43:52","slug":"iso-1600-willetis-the-eos-7d-mark-ii-1-6x-crop-factor-real-or-bogus-coming-next-in-depth-looks-at-7d-ii-high-iso-noise","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/2014\/10\/15\/iso-1600-willetis-the-eos-7d-mark-ii-1-6x-crop-factor-real-or-bogus-coming-next-in-depth-looks-at-7d-ii-high-iso-noise\/","title":{"rendered":"ISO 1600 Willet\/Is the EOS-7D Mark II 1.6X Crop Factor Real or Bogus?  Coming Next: In-depth Looks at 7D II High ISO Noise"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3>The Streak Continues: 319<\/h3>\n<p>I enjoyed a fine early morning of bird photography yesterday at DeSoto.  It featured sun in the east and dark blue\/black storm clouds in the west.  I made lots of bird-scapes with both the 24-70 and the 70-200.  Next was lunch and the 2 1\/2 hour drive home.   Apologies to those who are still waiting on replies to their e-mails or to having their new gear listed.  I hope to finish up the last edit of the DPP 4.0 RAW Conversion Guide this morning and speak with Arash this afternoon.  Then it will be time to catch up on e-mails.  This blog post, the 319th in a row, took me about 3 1\/2 hours to prepare. It was published just after 7:00am from my home at Indian Lake Estates, FL. <\/p>\n<p>To show your appreciation for my efforts here, we ask that you use our the B&#038;H and Amazon affiliate links on the right side of the blog for all of your purchases.  Please check the availability of all photographic accessories in the <a href=\"https:\/\/store.birdsasart.com\/shop\/default.aspx\">BIRDS AS ART Online Store<\/a>, especially Gitzo tripods, Wimberley tripod heads, and the like. We sell only what I have used, have tested, and can depend on.  We will not sell you junk.  We know what you need to make creating great images easy and fun. And we are always glad to answer your gear questions via <a href=\"mailto:samandmayasgrandpa@att.net\">e-mail<\/a>.<\/p>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-content\/gallery\/general\/willet-head-portrait-iso-1600-7d-ii-_36a8890-fort-desoto-county-park-pinellas-fl.jpg\" class='shutterset'><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ngg-singlepic ngg-center\" src=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-content\/gallery\/general\/willet-head-portrait-iso-1600-7d-ii-_36a8890-fort-desoto-county-park-pinellas-fl.jpg\" alt=\"willet-head-portrait-iso-1600-7d-ii-_36a8890-fort-desoto-county-park-pinellas-fl\" title=\"willet-head-portrait-iso-1600-7d-ii-_36a8890-fort-desoto-county-park-pinellas-fl\" width=800 \/><\/a>  <\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p>This Willet head portrait was created at 7:03pm on Day 2 of the Fort DeSoto October IPT with the <a href=\"https:\/\/store.birdsasart.com\/shop\/item.aspx?itemid=20\">Gitzo 3532 LS carbon fiber tripod<\/a>, the <a href=\"https:\/\/store.birdsasart.com\/shop\/item.aspx?itemid=274\">Mongoose M3.6 head<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/754508-REG\/Canon_5125B002_EF_600mm_f_4L_IS.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\/kw\/CA6004LIFEF2\/DFF\/d10-v2-t1-xCA6004LIFEF2\" target=\"_blank\">Canon EF 600mm f\/4L IS II USM lens<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/732111-USA\/Canon_4410B002_Extender_EF_2X_III.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\/kw\/CA2XEF3\/DFF\/d10-v2-t1-xCA2XEF3\" target=\"_blank\">Canon Extender EF 2X III<\/a>, and a beta version of the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/1081808-REG\/canon_9128b002_eos_7d_mark_ii.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\/kw\/CAE7D2\/DFF\/d10-v2-t1-xCAE7D2\" target=\"_blank\">Canon EOS 7D Mark II <\/a>. ISO 1600. Evaluative metering +2\/3 stop as framed: 1\/80 sec. at f\/10 in Manual mode was about a 2\/3 stop underexposure. <\/p>\n<p>Central sensor (by necessity)\/AI Servo Expand\/Rear Focus AF on the top of the bird&#8217;s bird&#8217;s bill just behind the nares (nostrils) as framed was active at the moment of exposure.  Click <a href=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/2013\/10\/31\/if-this-doesnt-get-the-point-across-nothing-will\/\">here<\/a> to see the latest version of the Rear Focus Tutorial. Click on the image to see a larger version.  <\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" width=\"728\" scrolling=\"no\" height=\"90\" frameborder=\"0\" style=\"border:none;\" border=\"0\" src=\"http:\/\/mer54715.datafeedfile.com\/widget\/aff_widget_prdt_generate-2.0.php?aff_num=7226&#038;aff_net=1&#038;size=728x90&#038;mode=m&#038;bucket_num=6223&#038;link_target=y&#038;sid=\" marginheight=\"0\" marginwidth=\"0\"><\/p>\n<p>Your browser does not support iFrame.<\/p>\n<p><\/iframe><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<h3>ISO 1600 Willet with the EOS-7D Mark II<\/h3>\n<p>To create this image I was working at an effective focal length of 600 X 2 X 1.6 = 1920mm.  This is a magnification of 38.4X.  Being able to create sharp images at extreme focal lengths at very slow shutter speeds (1\/80 sec here) is a testament to the great 4-stop Image Stabilization system of the 600 II, the incredible optical qualities of the lens and the Series III teleconverter, and the use of superb advanced sharpness techniques by yours truly.  <\/p>\n<p>Note that with the long effective focal length the angle of declination to the subject appeared quite shallow even though I was standing at full height behind my tripod.  Most folks would think that I had either been seated or on my knees when I made this image. <\/p>\n<p>Note also that the bill, even though it is angled quite a bit towards me, is fairly sharp even at the tip when compared to a similarly framed image created with a full frame sensor camera and the same gear.  To do that of course you would need to be closer to the bird.   <\/p>\n<h3>7D Mark II RAW File Offer<\/h3>\n<p>If you would like to receive a download link to the RAW file for today&#8217;s featured images for inspection and study only, please send a Paypal to us at <a href=\"mailto:birdsasart@verizon.net\">birdsasart@verizon.net<\/a><\/center> for $5.00 each (to cover our handling costs) or give Jim or Jennifer a buzz at 863-692-0906 during weekday business hours with a credit card in hand.  Whether by Paypal or phone be sure to specify &#8220;Willet Head Shot.&#8221;  We will send your links via Hightail. You can then download and save the RAW file.  Note: you may need to download and install DPP v3.14.41.0 in order to view the images and you will surely need to have that on your computer if you wish to convert them. Thanks to all who ordered yesterday&#8217;s RAW file. I will be offering additional high ISO RAW files in the coming days and weeks. Please note that all rights remain with Arthur Morris\/BIRDS AS ART.<\/p>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-content\/gallery\/general\/willet-face-100-crop-_36a8890-fort-desoto-county-park-pinellas-fl.jpg\" class='shutterset'><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ngg-singlepic ngg-center\" src=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-content\/gallery\/general\/willet-face-100-crop-_36a8890-fort-desoto-county-park-pinellas-fl.jpg\" alt=\"willet-face-100-crop-_36a8890-fort-desoto-county-park-pinellas-fl\" title=\"willet-face-100-crop-_36a8890-fort-desoto-county-park-pinellas-fl\" width=650 \/><\/a>  <\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p>This unsharpened JPEG represents a 100% crop of the TIFF created by converting the RAW file in DPP v3.14.41.  <\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<h3>The 100% Crop<\/h3>\n<p>To create a 3X2 100% crop double click on the zoom tool, use the Rectangular Marquee Tool, select fixed ratio with a width of 3 and a height of 2, and then set your crop by click-dragging.   Next is Image > Crop (my Keyboard Shortcut Ctrl + C) and you are ready to save your image file. <\/p>\n<p>If you are familiar with viewing your images at 100%, please feel free to let us know what you think of the noise here at ISO 1600.  <\/p>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-content\/gallery\/general\/willet-head-portrait-200-iso-1600-7d-ii-_36a8890-fort-desoto-county-park-pinellas-fl.jpg\" class='shutterset'><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ngg-singlepic ngg-center\" src=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-content\/gallery\/general\/willet-head-portrait-200-iso-1600-7d-ii-_36a8890-fort-desoto-county-park-pinellas-fl.jpg\" alt=\"willet-head-portrait-200-iso-1600-7d-ii-_36a8890-fort-desoto-county-park-pinellas-fl\" title=\"willet-head-portrait-200-iso-1600-7d-ii-_36a8890-fort-desoto-county-park-pinellas-fl\" width=650 \/><\/a>  <\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p>This unsharpened JPEG represents a 200% crop of the TIFF created by converting the RAW file in DPP v3.14.41.  Note: had this image been properly exposed, i.e., been 2\/3 stops lighter, the noise would have been reduced.  <\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<h3>The 200% Crop<\/h3>\n<p>To create a 3X2 200% crop first double click on the Zoom Tool to get to 100%, then click on the image with the Zoom Tool to get to 200%.  Then activate the Rectangular Marquee Tool, select fixed ratio with a width of 3 and a height of 2, and then set your crop by click-dragging.  Next is Image > Crop (my Keyboard Shortcut Ctrl + C) and you are ready to save your image file. <\/p>\n<p>If you are familiar with viewing your images at 200%, please feel free to let us know what you think of the noise and image quality here at ISO 1600. <\/p>\n<h3>Is the EOS-7D Mark II 1.6X Crop Factor Real or Bogus? <\/h3>\n<p>I put this question to Canon USA\u2019s top technical representative Chuck Westfall.Here is his response: <\/p>\n<p><em>IMO, the crop factor of APS-C affects two aspects of image quality: DOF and noise.<\/p>\n<p>On the first point, if you reduce the focal length on an APS-C camera to match the angle of view on a full frame camera while shooting at the same distance and aperture with both cameras, you end up with approximately one more stop&#8217;s worth of depth-of-field. This might be a good thing for some kinds of photography, but not all. It becomes a matter of personal taste.<\/p>\n<p>On the second point, the photodiodes on an APS-C sensor will obviously be smaller than on a full frame sensor if the resolution is the same. This is not a big issue at moderate ISO speeds, but differences in favor of the full frame sensor become more pronounced at speeds above 1600 or so, IMO. Again it becomes a matter of personal taste.<\/p>\n<p>I suppose there is a third element to consider, although it is not directly related to image quality: the size , weight and cost of lenses with equivalent angles of view and maximum aperture are clearly smaller, lighter and more affordable with APS-C vs. full frame. <\/p>\n<p>For bird photography, I think the scale tips in favor of APS-C as long as noise levels remain acceptable. And the image quality of the 7D Mark II is good enough IMO under most lighting conditions that bird photographers are likely to encounter.<\/p>\n<p>Best Regards,<br \/>\nChuck<\/em><\/p>\n<h3>Coming Next: In-depth Looks at 7D II High ISO Noise<\/h3>\n<p>Over the course of the next week, we will&#8211;as requested by so many&#8211;be taking a close look at some the 7D II images that I have made at the higher ISO settings including ISO 800, 1600, 3200, and even 6400. <\/p>\n<p><center><A href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/buy\/Digital-Cameras\/ci\/9811\/N\/4291570227+4291645412\/Ntt\/Canon+EOS+7D+Mark+II?BI=6633&#038;KW=&#038;KBID=7226&#038;img=canoneos70dMk2-300x250.jpg\"><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/images\/affiliateimages\/canoneos70dMk2-300x250.jpg\" border=\"0\"><\/a><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/affiliates.bhphotovideo.com\/showban.asp?id=7226&#038;img=canoneos70dMk2-300x250.jpg\" border=0><\/center><\/p>\n<p><center><center><font color=red><strong>Use the BAA Affiliate logo link above to pre-order your 7D II, shoot me your receipt via <a href=\"mailto:samandmayasgrandpa@att.net\">e-mail,<\/a><\/center> and I will do my very best to have your order expedited once the camera begins shipping. <\/strong><\/font> <\/center><\/center> <\/p>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-content\/gallery\/general\/bosque-card.jpg\" class='shutterset'><br \/>\n<img decoding=\"async\" class=\"ngg-singlepic ngg-center\" src=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-content\/gallery\/general\/bosque-card.jpg\" alt=\"bosque-card\" title=\"bosque-card\" width=800 \/><\/a>  <\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p>It&#8217;s been a 20+ year love affair&#8230;. <\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<h3>\u201cLove Affair with Bosque.\u201d    Sponsored by Canon.  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