{"id":9671,"date":"2012-05-05T20:31:09","date_gmt":"2012-05-06T00:31:09","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/?p=9671"},"modified":"2012-08-22T06:11:00","modified_gmt":"2012-08-22T10:11:00","slug":"eos-1dx-eos-5d-mark-iii-eos-1d-mark-iv-thoughts","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/2012\/05\/05\/eos-1dx-eos-5d-mark-iii-eos-1d-mark-iv-thoughts\/","title":{"rendered":"EOS-1DX, EOS-5D Mark III, &#038; EOS-1D Mark IV Thoughts"},"content":{"rendered":"<table>\n<tr>\n<td>ngg_shortcode_0_placeholder<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p>This breeding plumage Cattle Egret image was created with the the tripod-mounted <a rel=nofollow href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/542293-REG\/Canon_2746B002AA_EF_800mm_f_5_6L_IS.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">Canon 800mm f\/5.L IS lens<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/search?Ntt=canon+EF+Extender+2X+III&#038;N=0&#038;InitialSearch=yesBI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">2XIII teleconverter<\/a>, and the <a rel=nofollow href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/656378-REG\/Canon_3822B002_EOS_1D_Mark_IV.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">Canon EOS-1D Mark IV<\/a>.  ISO 400.  Evaluative metering at -1\/3 stop: 1\/800 sec. at f\/11 in Manual mode. <\/p>\n<p>Fill flash at -1 stop with my brand new <a rel=nofollow href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/847537-REG\/Canon_5296B002_Speedlite_600EX.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT<\/a> and a <a href=\"https:\/\/store.birdsasart.com\/shop\/item.aspx?itemid=4\">Better Beamer<\/a>. Good news there: the FX-3 fits the <a rel=nofollow href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/847537-REG\/Canon_5296B002_Speedlite_600EX.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT<\/a> perfectly. <\/p>\n<p>Manual focus; gasp! For maximum reach with distant subjects I will continue to go to my EOS-1D Mark IV bodies.  When preparing this blog post I had thought that this image was made with the 1.4X III TC&#8230;.  <\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<h3>EOS-1DX, EOS-5D Mark III, &#038; EOS-1D Mark IV Thoughts<\/h3>\n<p>This post was prompted by a recent e-mail from IPT-veteran Mike Cristina who asked, &#8220;Do the quality of the files of the 5D Mark III at 22MP compensate for the extra magnification of the 1DM4 at 16MP?  Same question for the 1DX.  And what about the fact that neither the 5D Mark III or the 1D Mark IV will autofocus at f\/8.  <\/p>\n<p>The short answer is that pixel-wise, the math is close with the edge to the 1D Mark IV and that pixel-wise the 1D Mark IV is the clear winner over the long anticipated 1DX. I love the files from my Mark IV bodies and I love the files from my 5D Mark III bodies.  I have never created an image with the EOS-1DX.  Have never even held one in my hands. The issue of no practical autofocus at f\/8 is a fact of life that each of us will have to consider. And once the 500 f\/4L IS II and the 600 f\/4L IS II are on the scene, the ability of the Mark IV to AF with the 2X III teleconverters will become an even more important issue especially for those who photograph in areas where it is difficult to get close to the birds.  That said, there is no way that I can decide if a 5D III or a 1DX is a good camera for you.  I can share my thoughts and my strategies and the images that I create but in the end you must do your homework and make the decision for yourself.  <\/p>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>ngg_shortcode_1_placeholder<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<p>These Wood Stork chicks were photographed with the tripod-mounted <a rel=nofollow href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/542293-REG\/Canon_2746B002AA_EF_800mm_f_5_6L_IS.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">Canon 800mm f\/5.L IS lens<\/a> and the <a rel=nofollow href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/656378-REG\/Canon_3822B002_EOS_1D_Mark_IV.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">Canon EOS-1D Mark IV<\/a>.  ISO 400.  Evaluative metering at +1\/3 stop: 1\/250 sec. at f\/6.3 in Manual mode. <\/p>\n<p>Central sensor AI Servo\/Rear Focus AF and re-compose. Click <a href=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/2011\/09\/13\/rear-focus-tutorial\/\">here<\/a> if you missed the Rear Focus Tutorial. Click on the image for a larger version. <\/p>\n<p>Here I went to the 800\/Mark IV to fill the frame with the subjects with the prime lens alone thanks to the Mark IV&#8217;s 1.3 crop factor.    <\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>After the rather simple analysis above things become far more complex.  For example, the Canon EOS-7D wins the pixels-on-the-subject contest by miles, but most serious photographers far prefer image files from the 1D MIII or MIV bodies or from any of the 5D bodies by a large margin.  There is a lot more to a quality file than pixels on the subject.  In general larger pixels equal less noise. Some image sensors simply provide cleaner more detailed image files than others no matter the pixel count.  The 1DX (18 mp), the clear loser in the pixel count wars to both the 5D III and the 1D IV, has a brand new sensor that offers 16-channel, dual line readout as compared to 8-channel, single line designs in the previous generation of chips. This offers improved low-light capability with a faster capture speeds of 12 fps.  And surely improved image quality as well.  For a comprehensive overview\/preview of the Canon EOS-1DX see the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dpreview.com\/\">dpreview.com<\/a> feature <a href=\"http:\/\/www.dpreview.com\/articles\/5149972341\/canon-eos-1d-x-overview\">here<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>So if the pixel advantage goes to the 1D Mark IV that can autofocus down to f\/8 what the heck am I doing with a 5D Mark III?  As regular readers know I feel that the new autofocus system in the 5D III is the best ever in any Canon camera body.  I make a higher percentage of sharp flight images than ever before and I love the various AF Area Selections modes. I appreciate the light weight of the 5D III when it is hanging on my shoulder with the 70-200 f\/2.8L IS IS.  In addition, in situations where getting close to the birds is not a concern, the full frame 5D III will give me considerably more pixels on the subject by a factor of 22 to 16.  <\/p>\n<p>So where does the EOS-1DX fit into the picture?  With the new improved sensor and image files, with the same basic AF system as the 5D III, with a blazing 12 frames per second frame rate, and with pro body heft and feel, the new body will surely be a superb flight photography camera.  I will be ordering one through the Canon Explorer of Light program as soon as I am able to do so. <\/p>\n<p>Right now I will continue to use my EOS-1D Mark IV when I need the reach, usually with the 800mm f\/5.6L IS and often with the 1.4X III TC and I will use the EOS-5D MIII for flight and action photography and when working with easily approachable birds and animals. And I will be eagerly awaiting the release of the EOS-1DX. You can find additional info on my current gear strategy <a href=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/2012\/04\/13\/eos-5d-miii-eos-1d-mark-iv-gear-strategy\/\">here<\/a>. If you would like to try to understand the pixels on the subject math see the BPN thread <a href=\"http:\/\/www.birdphotographers.net\/forums\/showthread.php\/97838-I-ll-Never-Understand-the-Simple-Math?p=794957#post794957\">here<\/a>.   <\/p>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>ngg_shortcode_2_placeholder<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td align=center>\n<p>This Cattle Egret flight image was created with the <a rel=nofollow href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/680103-USA\/Canon_2751B002_EF_70_200mm_f_2_8L_IS.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">Canon 70-200mm f\/2.8L IS II lens<\/a>, the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/search?Ntt=canon+EF+Extender+2X+III&#038;N=0&#038;InitialSearch=yesBI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">2XIII teleconverter<\/a> (hand held at 335mm), and the <a rel=nofollow href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/847545-REG\/Canon_5260B002_EOS_5D_Mark_III.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226  \">Canon EOS-5D Mark III<\/a>. ISO 400.  Evaluative metering -1\/3 stop: 1\/3200 sec. at f\/5.6 in Manual mode. <\/p>\n<p>Central Sensor Surround\/AI Servo Rear Focus AF active at the moment of exposure. Click <a href=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/2011\/09\/13\/rear-focus-tutorial\/\">here<\/a> if you missed the Rear Focus Tutorial. Be sure to click on the image to see a larger version. <\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<p>If you are a doubter be sure to check out &#8220;Is the EOS-5D Mark III&#8211;2X III Teleconverter&#8211;70-200f\/2.8L IS II a Viable  Combination?&#8221; <a href=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/2012\/04\/15\/is-the-eos-5d-mark-iii-2x-iii-teleconverter-70-200f2-8l-is-ii-a-viable-combination\/\">here<\/a>.  <\/p>\n<h3>Question and Questions<\/h3>\n<p>Which of the three images above do you like best?  Be sure to let us know why.  And feel free to post any questions that you might have on any Canon camera bodies. <\/p>\n<table>\n<tr>\n<td>ngg_shortcode_3_placeholder<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/table>\n<h3>B&#038;H Double Rebates Include the 5D Mark III<\/h3>\n<p>Click <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/find\/newsLetter\/Canon-Double-Rebates-2.jsp \/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226 \">here<\/a>. Select one of four current Canon camera bodies&#8211;both the EOS-5D Mark III and the EOS-7D are in the group.  Add a lens&#8211;there are 30 in the group, a Series III teleconverter, or a Speedlite, and enjoy large double rebates. The lenses include lots of my favorites: the 70-200mm f\/4 L IS, the 70-200mm f\/2.8L IS II, the circle lens, the 180 macro, and the 300mm f\/4L IS.  You can check the specs on all Canon telephoto lenses <a href=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/2012\/04\/24\/canon-telephoto-lens-specifications-info-and-links-bookmark-this-page\/\">here<\/a>.  This double rebate offer expires on April 2, 2012. <\/p>\n<h3>Shopper&#8217;s Guide.<\/h3>\n<h2>Support both the Bulletins and the Blog by making all your B &#038; H purchases <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/?BI=6633&#038;KBID=7226\">here<\/a>.<\/h2>\n<p>Below is a list of the gear talked about in this blog post. Thanks a stack to all who have used the Shopper&#8217;s Guide links to purchase their gear as a thank you for all the free information that we bring you on the Blog and in the Bulletins.  Before you purchase anything be sure to check out the advice in our <a href=\"http:\/\/www.birdsasart.com\/shoppers-guide\/\">Shopper&#8217;s Guide<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p><a rel=nofollow href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/542293-REG\/Canon_2746B002AA_EF_800mm_f_5_6L_IS.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">Canon 800mm f\/5.6L IS lens.<\/a> Right now this is my all time favorite super-telephoto lens.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/680103-USA\/Canon_2751B002_EF_70_200mm_f_2_8L_IS.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">Canon 70-200mm f\/2.8L IS II lens<\/a>.  Man, I am loving this lens on my shoulder with the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/search?Ntt=canon+EF+Extender+2X+III&#038;N=0&#038;InitialSearch=yesBI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">2XIII teleconverter<\/a>.  I also use it a lot&#8211;depending on the situation&#8211;with the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/search?Ntt=canon+EF+Extender+1.4X+III&#038;N=0&#038;InitialSearch=yesBI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">1.4X III TC<\/a>.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/search?Ntt=canon+EF+Extender+1.4X+III&#038;N=0&#038;InitialSearch=yesBI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">Canon EF 1.4X III TC<\/a>. This new TC is designed to work best with the new Series II super-telephoto lenses.<br \/>\n<a rel=nofollow href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/847545-REG\/Canon_5260B002_EOS_5D_Mark_III.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226  \">Canon EOS-5D Mark III<\/a>.  Man, I am in love with this camera body.  Both the files and the AF system are superb.<br \/>\n<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/656378-REG\/Canon_3822B002_EOS_1D_Mark_IV.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">Canon EOS-1D Mark IV professional digital camera body.<\/a> The very best professional digital camera body that I have ever used.<br \/>\n<a rel=nofollow href=\"http:\/\/www.bhphotovideo.com\/c\/product\/847537-REG\/Canon_5296B002_Speedlite_600EX.html\/BI\/6633\/KBID\/7226\">Speedlite 600EX-RT<\/a>.  Canon&#8217;s latest greatest professional flash has more features than I will ever use or need.  Learn more about the new flash by scrolling down <a href=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/2012\/04\/29\/why-stop-there\/\">here<\/a>. <\/p>\n<h2><strong>And from the BAA On-line Store:<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/store.birdsasart.com\/shop\/category.aspx?catid=17\">LensCoats<\/a>.  I have a LensCoat on each of my big lenses to protect them from nicks and thus increase their re-sales value.  All my big lens LensCoat stuff is in Hardwood Snow pattern.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/store.birdsasart.com\/shop\/category.aspx?catid=18\">LegCoat Tripod Leg Covers.<\/a>  I have four tripods active and each has a Hardwood Snow LegCoat on it to help prevent further damage to my tender shoulders \ud83d\ude42  And you will love them in mega-cold weather&#8230;.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/store.birdsasart.com\/shop\/item.aspx?itemid=20\">GT3532 LS<\/a>. This one replaces the GT3530LS Tripod and will last you a lifetime.  I&#8217;ll be commenting on this new model soon.  In short, I like it.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/store.birdsasart.com\/shop\/item.aspx?itemid=274\">Mongoose M3.6 Tripod Head.<\/a>  Right now this is the best tripod head around for use with lenses that weigh less than 9 pounds. For heavier lenses, check out the <a href=\"https:\/\/store.birdsasart.com\/shop\/item.aspx?itemid=35\">Wimberley V2 head<\/a>.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/store.birdsasart.com\/shop\/item.aspx?itemid=238\">CR-80 Replacement Foot for Canon 800<\/a>. When using the 800 on a Mongoose as I do, replacing the lens foot with this accessory lets the lens sit like a dog whether pointed up or down and prevents wind-blown spinning of your lens on breezy days by centering the lens directly over the tripod.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/store.birdsasart.com\/shop\/item.aspx?itemid=5\"> Double  Bubble Level.<\/a>  You will find one in my camera&#8217;s hot shoe whenever I am not using flash.<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/store.birdsasart.com\/shop\/item.aspx?itemid=304\">The Lens Align Mark II.<\/a>  I use the Lens Align Mark II pretty much religiously to micro-adjust all of my gear an average of once a month and always before a major trip.  Enjoy our free comprehensive tutorial <a href=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/2011\/01\/11\/the-lens-align-mk-ii-the-lens-align-tutorial-micro-adjusting-magic\/comment-page-1\/\">here.<\/a><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa-store\/digital\/breeze-browser\/\">BreezeBrowser<\/a>. I do not see how any digital photographer can exist without this program.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p> ngg_shortcode_4_placeholder <\/p>\n<p>This breeding plumage Cattle Egret image was created with the the tripod-mounted Canon 800mm f\/5.L IS lens, the 2XIII teleconverter, and the Canon EOS-1D Mark IV. ISO 400. Evaluative metering at -1\/3 stop: 1\/800 sec. at f\/11 in Manual mode. <\/p>\n<p>Fill flash at -1 stop with my brand new Canon Speedlite 600EX-RT [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"ngg_post_thumbnail":0,"footnotes":"","_links_to":"","_links_to_target":""},"categories":[147],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-9671","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-147","odd"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9671","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=9671"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9671\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=9671"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=9671"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.birdsasart-blog.com\/baa\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=9671"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}